Please help - outboard motor mount

[Reyher]

Ha! I'll bet you had oil, soot, smoke and flame coming out of EVERY orifice after that little faux pas! Uh... not you personally Chris. I'm speaking of the Honda!
Let us know what the dealer says.

[cjdavia]

According to the dealer nothing is wrong with the motor and it did not leak any oil for them. It is strange that the oil level is now magically in the 'normal' range and there are oil drips under the drain screw.

I can't wait for the rain to subside in Atlanta so I can take her out again and see if the problem continues!

Thanks for your help
Chris

[Reyher]

Oh well, maybe the dealer has learned not to overfill the crankcase in the future. I think you will be very pleased with the Honda 2hp now!
Best regards and send some of that rain to North East Texas. The lake levels are getting low around here!
chris...

[cfos]

Chris,
I did get some good advice when I was on my Lake Erie sailing trip but I see that you have done a great job from your pics. The suggestion my brother had was to install a bushing through the hollow transom and into the backing plate. I think I will change the holes on the Garelick mount like you did and use this method. Now I just need to find some marine lumber in Columbus Ohio!

Peace,
Craig

[cfos]

I forgot to mention I haven't replied because I got home to a smoked power supply on my computeer. Warranty parts have been received and installed.

C

[cjdavia]

Craig,

Thanks for the input and what a bummer about your computer. I tried to wait for you but I was dying to get into this project.

Bushings that run through the fiberglass, but are bound by both pieces of plywood sound like very a good idea. I was also toying with the idea of using toggle bolts, but the marine plywood, glued and screwed, turned out much stronger than I imagined. It should be more than adequate for your lighter electric trolling motor.

Just some thoughts for you as you start your project:

Before you drill into the boat, make certain that the tiller does not interfere with your prop. Get a helper to swing the tiller around while you position the bracket.

I wish I knew ahead of time that the plywood would do a good job of reinforcement. If I were to do it again I'd flip the mounting brackets around so the bolts are closer together, just like Paul suggested in an eariler thread. At the time I was thinking that 'wider was better' for my installation. The lower bolt, in the corner by the side of the boat, seemed like it was set far enough from the side of the boat at first, but the curved plexiglass made it wind up very close to the edge of my plywood.

Be patient, there were no straight lines on my boat. An orbital or belt sander is going to be your best friend.

Don't tighten the nuts too much. Hand-tight plus 1/2-3/4 turn should do the trick.

Good luck finding that marine plywood, it is pricey stuff!

Chris

[cfos]

Chris,
Thanks for the advice, especially the one about patience! I'll let you know how things turn out.

Craig

[Reyher]

Originally Posted by cjdavia

According to the dealer nothing is wrong with the motor and it did not leak any oil for them. It is strange that the oil level is now magically in the 'normal' range and there are oil drips under the drain screw.

I can't wait for the rain to subside in Atlanta so I can take her out again and see if the problem continues!

Thanks for your help
Chris

Did that cure the problem Chris?
Thanks!

[cjdavia]

Thanks for asking!

The dealer told me that they did nothing to my motor, but I noticed oil stains on the cavitation plate under the oil drain plug which leads me to believe they did drain out some excess oil. I've only had the chance to use the motor once, but I had no issues so things are looking up!

The other thing that might have happenned is that the boat might have been squatting too low into the water. When I took it out last I tried my best to sit as far up in the cockpit as possible when then motor is running. Maybe I'll adjust the trim angle out a bit next time and see what happens.

Thanks for all of your help! -chris

[senormechanico]

I had similar symptoms with a motor scooter when I overfilled the chain gallery.
The chain gallery vent pipe sucked the excess oil into the air cleaner which caused the engine to run very rich and die because of the restriction in the air filter element.

I haven't read all the posts yet, but I'm willing to bet that's all it is.

Steve B.
Current boats:

C14.2K Mod 2, Dragonfly 1000 Trimaran, Avon 310 RIB and 2 Stearns inflatable kayaks.

[wildbrian]

I just wanted to thank you for your deck plate idea - I just finished mounting my motor mount on my 1978 Capri, and it was essential that I access the space under the seat to reinforce it. Brian

[cjdavia]

Thanks senormechanico,

Yup, once I drained some of the excess oil and replaced the gummed up spark plug, my honda outboard worked fine... no thanks to my dealer.

A few weeks ago, I started her up after a long winter and it worked on the first pull. Yipee!

Thanks for responding!

Chris

[regularman]

Does everyone have a cable run from the motor to the transom in case the motor mounting bracket should break off. It could prevent you from becoming one of the many people who have sacrificed their motor to the lake gods

[billboats]

Outboards should be mounted so the cavitation plate is level with and at the same angle as the bottom of the hull. More up angle is faster top end, down angle pulls from the hole faster but is slower. Probably not much noticable difference with a 2hp.
To the guy using the Minnkota troll motor, where and how did you mount the battery?

[GabeN]

Hello all, I just found this thread and it is great, well the whole site for that matter! I am a new 14.2 owner.

I was hoping for a follow up or summary post from Chris D, but anyone can chime in on this.

Honda 2hp Motor:
I haven't decided on the long or short yet.
Does your motor have the short or long shaft? also with or with out the clutch? and how does it work for you? How is the noise (Reyher mentioned that the short may be louder)?

Also i keep my boat in a lot near the launch, so i will need to remove the motor each time and transport in a car, does this sound feasible?

Bracket:
Also I think you mentioned mounting the bracket inside rather than outside to allow for more room, can you please give more details? Also did you end up with a Garelick mount, how far does it come off the back of the boat?

Did you countersink the bottom bolts and only going through the outer piece of plywood?

Final thoughts:
Is there anything that you would have done differently?


Thanks,

Gabe